Large nootropics survey rates Phenylpiracetam nearly as powerful as Modafinil or Caffeine.
I didn’t participate in the survey, but I would agree that Phenylpiracetam has a noticeable effect and is one of the more exciting nootropics to recently gain popularity in the early adopter crowd.
Louie Helm is apparently something called a "Tech Entrepreneur"
Thoughts on coluracetam?
Austin: No opinion on Coluracetam yet.
No prescription, no. It was being studied as a prescription medicine, but never completed clinical trials.
Have just (impulse-)ordered some, having looked it up. Thanks!
Why would substances with the same active drug have such different ratings? This doesn’t seem really reliable.
It’s a survey so it’s true that the data is rough. But I don’t see anything in it with same active ingredients. The ones in the -racetam family are all different molecules and do behave differently, even though their methods of action are similar. That’s why some only require 20mg to get the same effect as 5000mg of the others.
Armodafinil and Adrafinil are all prodrugs for Modafinil. Moreover, many of the -racetam family reportedly have the same profile and action mechanism.
I believe Adrafinil is a prodrug for modafinil, but armodafinil is a single isomer formulation of modafinil and not a prodrug for it. Given that, these 3 substances perform remarkably inline with expectations in this survey. All are rated very similarly and in the top 2 tiers of subjective performance, and they are even in the exact order one would predict if all you knew was that one was the drug, another the prodrug, and the third was the purified, single isomer formulation.
For those seeking to make purchases, take a look at this list of sellers, from the FAQ of the place that survey was taken:
Phenylpiracetam feels like a mild stimulant to me. Coluracetam is definitely pretty neat – I take about 5mg sublingually a few days a week. I don’t recommend either for anyone who has issues with muscular tension though.
Nick, any differences between your experience of coluracetam and phenylpiracetam? I note Scott also talked positively about coluracetam, and I’m interested in anyone’s experience with it.
Phenylpiracetam gives me more tension, on par with a cup of coffee. Coluracetam just gives me a brief wave of tension, and then that’s over with. I personally don’t notice the benefits of phenylpiracetam so much, just the side-effects – this could be because I’m more sensitive to things which increase anxiety, so there could be awesome benefits I’m missing. Coluracetam definitely both gives me a feeling of calm lucidity, and I do better at work on days that I take it (I have very clear metrics on my work performance).
Odd (to me) that Vitamin D is on the list but not Alpha-GPC (choline alfoscerate).
I wonder how phenotropil would score if Longecity readers had access to it. It feels like an exceptionally good noostimulant
Phenilpiracetam is pnenotropil, and it was scored high. But the study has two biases. Towards stimulant and toward more popular drugs.
Thanks Turchin Alexei, I did not notice it, lol. It looks like people do not really need congnitive enhancement, they just need concentration to use their mind
People some times need high and because of it they like stimulants more than say memory enhancers.
I think people are imperfect in general, and human brain is not designed exictly for focused intellectual work
but could be trained and upgrated as legs for running
Did you see research of such trainings as interventions?
Some promising nootropics like IRDA, NSI189 PRL and coluracetam are n investigation phase and was tried by private people on LongeCity only last year. But people are buying them.